things churches do that are not in the bible

“Believing in Jesus is all it takes to get to heaven” Actually this phrase is Biblical. “While it is personal, it is not private,” an article from the Southern Baptist Conventions’ journal says. God is the one who established the pattern for “church” with the tabernacle and then the Temple. By Cory Barclay Published Feb 23, 2016. He didn’t just want them to obey and say do this and don’t do that. Jeff Titterington says: November 26, 2016 at 9:09 PM. I really wish everyone would leave their phones at home on Sunday. No children’s church, youth groups, or “age-appropriate” learning. Perhaps most obviously, the early church was not confined to a church building with steeple and pews. And what if they met for 2 hours or more? Acts 2:45. Great to consider these things. Give my greetings to the brothers at Laodicea, and to Nympha and the church in her house. The universe sings praises to God and stars declare His glory. Worship Sets. Of course, I’m just joking with you, it’s what’s in the heart that matters. Just my own thoughts from my own journey and observations. And i agree with you Lydia. Lets just say.. it always has been the heart since the beginning or creation. I simply think they should evaluate these things on a regular basis. Can’t help but wonder if they are truly looking up bible passages or something else. | Is It Possible to Read the Bible Too Much? The Bible is special. I’ve seen people and experienced how in the little they had.. physically ,, they had more spiritually.. and that’s the church. Whether it be alcohol, drugs or some other addictive behavior, Jesus said, “You cannot serve two masters” (Matthew 6:24). and what we should really be doing. I would like to point out that there were some large gathering in the New Testament. As for sermons, I’m simply arguing that the term “sermon” isn’t used in the Bible. There’s some surprises hidden in the story of the beginning. Though you should feel comfortable and welcome at church, there are other important criteria to consider when trying to find a spiritual home. It is an eyewitness account of historical events of such magnitude that they have literally shaped the world in which we live. Just wondering if the church of today has, consciously or unconsciously, drifted from God’s design, that’s all. Power of the Holy Spirit and filled by the Spirit! I even said, “Now, do we scratch it because it’s not in the Bible? Thanks for the reflection and for sharing it on the Cozy Reading Spot. 1 Cor 14:26. The Bible does teach that we are saved by faith, apart from works of the Law. ” and “Let all things be done to edify.” I think that is the take-away message of the primary article, and that principle can’t be bettered. First Corinthians 6:10 lists drunkards among those who “will not inherit the kingdom of God.”. Thank you for linking up to Cisneros Cafe for Open Mic Monday. 9. While it is a sin, for centuries, there has been great debate around the topic of drinking in moderation and even more in recent years. Man-made ideas aren’t always biblical even if they help us to accomplish biblical purposes. This was an extremely thought provoking and insightful post! Culture. Outside of that, I would be pretty wary. If there are ever disagreements among church members, it isn’t whether or not the wording of a service was incorrect. I’d love for us to be more of a family…that’s what the church sounds like to me in the Bible. There are many types of superstitions in the world, ranging from benign – such as not walking under a ladder – to magic, divination, voodoo and sorcery. But we do acknowledge that these are not things the Bible prescribes, suggests, or models. It’s not the “church system of man.”. Some sayings are simple rewordings of biblical truth, but others are dangerous heresy. Sing the Bible: Paul told the church in Colossae, “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly…singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God” (Col. 3:16). Hope to see you link up again this week . We forget that every good thing comes down from our Father in heaven (James 1:17). Have you observed the average evangelical church of today with Bible in hand? Or both? And questioning. But not all churches have systems in place to commission and celebrate these leaders, much less the systems to identify and train future leaders. Sure a decked out building with beautiful art and architecture help can bring people to the Lord. 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God hasn’t change at all. Coming to you from the Kelly Balarie link up . But no biblical prophet ever uttered those words. In other words, you reap what you sew. I am not trying to be down with the new things today in life. ( Log Out /  Nothing of the sort is to be found. Have a blessed week, Lydia. If so, you may have noticed a number of things the church has that the Bible doesn’t. . Thanks for sharing your perspective. How does what we do in our neighbourhood church follow the mandate of teaching and being taught, so that we would be prepared to fulfill the great commission. Not very many people are comfortable talking about the ways they give monetarily to the church. They bring their phones and have their heads in them. There are a lot of things we do as “church” that were never done in the Bible. God exhorts the Israelites, “You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. No building campaigns, mortgages, custodians, and carpet discussions. is things that the church DOESN’T do that are in Scripture. The Bible is the single authoritative text on morality and good values in the Christian faith - along with the Quran for Islam and the Torah for Judaism. I’ve never visited a home church, but I can see why many families attend them. The more we add to the word of God the more its for us to please ourselves.. and the further we go into our view of worship or how to do things. It’s actually attributed to Benjamin Franklin, one of the nation’s founding fathers. I would say, We need the Bible and the methods it gives to grow our faith. Thanks for stopping by. We would be comfortable with a couple team-teaching some of these things, with the husband taking the lead in explaining doctrinal issues, and the wife contributing her insights into methods or people-skills. We home church and have been for 8 years! There is mention several times in the NT of traditions that are being passed along by word of mouth. Paul taught publicly, in large gatherings and from house to house, Acts 20:20. That how the gospel is preached. The Bible makes this very clear. How easy it is to equate our experience or tradition with the Bible’s instruction! Thank you so much for sharing with gentleness and love. It can be so easy to say that we shouldn’t do it because it isn’t in the Bible, but the thing is God is still speaking, and acting in the same ways, so we need to really be in communication with Him and act accordingly. 4. And I do believe that the more we follow God’s design laid out in Scripture, the closer we’ll be to following His ways which are so much better than ours. This is good to keep us thinking on how we should do what the Bible teaches and not just follow traditions. Astrology is offensive to God because it attributes to planets and stars the power that belongs to God alone and because it tries to find the Will of God by other means that God has appointed. So many Christians look at tithing as a final issue when it’s really a matter of the heart. Not necessarily. But that way of thinking may not be helpful, true or even Biblical after all. What then, brothers? Churches in the New Testament were not defined by the personality of the preacher but by the character of the Christians who attended. Answer: In Psalm 119:16, David promises God, "I shall delight in Your statutes; I shall not forget Your word." Question: "What are the most common things people think are in the Bible that are not actually in the Bible?" But the Bible doesn’t always say what we think it says and there are a number of phrases that sound like they come from the Bible, but they don’t. But spiritual and how things were. BuzzFeed Staff. I go to a big church and must say that I notice we need to work harder than we are to pursue each other in love, as Christ does. I have been to churches where more than a few don’t even bring their Bible. Not saying I disagree with them all. To me.. the church reflects a business. It has alway seemed to me that the vast sums of money it takes to build and maintain some of these buildings would be better spent elsewhere. Thank you for sharing your words and heart…stopping by from Coffee & Conversation! Who knows how many things occurred in one city, or one house within a city, that did not occur in others. Astrology is the ancient belief that a person’s destiny can be found in the pattern of the stars and planets at the time of one’s birth. WOW! God wanted to worship Him with ALL our hearts with ALL our mind with ALL our strength. . Very sad. . There’s that in-between area of corporate and personal fellowship, like from Acts, that we seem to need to get back to. The Bible says, giving is to be done cheerfully, rather than as obligation (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), and not for the purpose of public recognition (Matthew 6:1-4). For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. It assumes that since these things didn’t exist (and sermons most definitely DID exist), that they therefore shouldn’t be used. In fact, some of your favorite things—the ones you’ve come to associate with the Church—are not actually part of the biblical definition of “the Church.” That doesn’t mean those things are bad (although it doesn’t imply that they are inherently good either), it just means they aren’t a necessary component of the subject. The Bible could not be clearer on this point. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Who’s to say the early church didn’t meet at 6 pm? Thanks, Steve, for your thoughtful input! It seems there are a number of passages regarding the church to which the organized church today doesn’t pay any attention. We know from Scripture that swearing is a sin. We interpret the Bible as the church. Sometimes we get so hung up on our traditions we forget the true meaning. I apologize that this article came across this way to you. And evaluating. Most churches should have at least a few people who have been doing these things officially or unofficially for decades. Superstition is based on the faith of an object having magical powers. Something that has always intrigued me (and your post made me think of this!) People need to study their bibles instead of just listening to what others say. The problem is the churches that are doing all of these things because it is cool or because they have always done it this way, and there is no Bible or scripture being taught or spoken behind this. Though we do not like the idea of eternal suffering in hell, Greear argues that it exists for a reason. I can understand and perhaps agree with your comments on the “church” as a building. “All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. God left us the Bible as written testimony of His Word. And keep questioning, considering, and evaluating! You are right in a huge respect though, we should be loving, being the Church, right where we are, no building or program required. That’s why I question the items in this list! We do not interpret the Bible in a vacuum. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with my church’s use of them. I have to constantly watch out for the bible teachers I listen to. Bible translations. I’m not saying I’m against these 10 things either. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. Very good post, by the way! Check out Acts 2:46, Acts 5:42. Something is missing and needs to be restored. We have no biblical sources for order or format. "Touch your neighbor" You ever sat next to somebody in church that was fine and you couldn't wait for the preacher to say, "touch your neighbor"? There are also a number of things that Christians will say or do that they think is biblical but is totally not rooted in Scripture. Sermons. | Beware of Bible Journaling It amazes me the amount of Christians and churches who do not follow the bible correctly. Age Segregation. But Lutheran and Reformed Christians in particular have taken this to mean that Christians do not in any way participate in their salvation. I have a feeling that those thousands soon met in various homes, but, you’re right, we don’t know exactly how they handled the large crowds. In Psalm 119:16, David promises God, “I shall delight in Your statutes; I shall not forget Your word.” In Deuteronomy 11:18-19. I would like to point out that Jesus and the apostles reached people in the language of the day, their native tongue, something they could easily understand, so if today that includes video, lights, and big music, who’s to say God can’t work through that? Rather than give out of a place of gratitude and joy, we see ourselves as thrifty overseers, doling out scarce resources. People shouldn’t hold a festival, or make a church gathering and.. then will add the gospel. Not the church as in each local congregation, but the holy catholic church, the true believers of all time. It’s easy to get caught up in “that’s the way we’ve always done it” mentality, but that doesn’t make it right. Thanks for encouraging readers to search the Scriptures and examine why we follow traditions. Right, so my question would be, “Can a man-made idea which is not commanded, instructed, or suggested in Scripture, ever be truly helpful or edifying?” Personally, I think the answer is “yes.” But I do think we easily accept anything and everything as helpful and edifying when it’s really not. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. I pray when I’m looking for a job and pray for the unsaved daily. The idea that church is a building and some place we go to once a week is possibly one of the most harmful. Many of the disagreements people have about the Bible have already been discussed and resolved by the church. Whereas my own personal views are that our relationship with Jesus Christ is one on one as Christ being the sole mediator between God and man. And while these things may or may not be helpful to the practice of our church gathering, they are certainly unhelpful if we can’t let them go. | 5 Reasons Children’s Bible Stories Are Dangerous. | Why I Wore Skirts for 10 Years But no sermon. If it’s because the Bible says so, we’re always on good ground. You always have such thoughtful posts – thanks for joining us again at #FridayFrivolity! And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved. 15 Shocking Things Forbidden In The Bible That We Do Anyway. Too often we treat our financial situation and other resources as though God needs them. Sure, Scripture is full of God doing things in unusual (to us) ways. A persons heart it was just not a new testament thing. If you are unselfish, kind, and holy during your lifetime, you will be rewarded by being reincarnated into a pleasant life. The concept of reincarnation and karma is incompatible with what the Bible teaches about life, death and the sowing and reaping of eternal life. But I am sure there must be people who leave having been unnoticed (I had that happen to me in the beginning): horrible thought. Nowadays, people just pick and choose what they want to hear and then just follow that. When it starts to deviate from that journey is when I grow concerned. God Bless:). Thank you for your input. by Jessica Misener. And questioning. In fact, shock of all shockers, you will find no worship leader, no worship team, and no rehearsals. Yes, that’s right. Thank you for a great post. These types of practices are dangerous because they open the mind of the practitioners to the influence of the devil. We like the flesh we enjoy it, we want things that are so far away from God. The books of Acts says that the people met in the big gathering (at the Temple) and then in smaller gatherings (house to house). While the Bible is often quoted, it is just as often misquoted. Without the Bible, the Western world and a good deal of the Eastern would be completely different today than if the events of the book had never occurred. However, it seems to me that a better way to bring people to the Lord is by foregoing the window dressing and showing them God’s love by spending that money doing what scripture tells us to by feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, protecting the weak and ill, and simply loving one another. 8. In the Old Testament, God instructed His people to tithe – give ten percent of their income to meet the needs of the religious, economic and political system of ancient Israel. They may do these things based on false teachings , limited understanding around God’s Word or simply because they believe that action holds little weight in God’s eyes. There are multiple versions out there that do not necessarily say the same thing. Cursing. | The Greatest Showman & The Brainwashing of the Modern Soul Thanks for your input. They didn’t have pants, either. The purpose of the commandments and customs were because we’re really really evil. Speaking of Sunday School, there is no indication that the early church divided into age groups to learn about God. The church is not primarily a concert. However, there are many things that Jesus-following, church-going, Bible-believing Christians believe that are completely unbiblical. You make some challenging remarks! But do we? The Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek, not English. I love how Paul writes his letter. It’s one of those true-ish statements, but it’s not a Bible verse. Imagine the experience of a few families sharing their lives together, as opposed to hundreds, even thousands, who don’t even recognize others who attend the same church. For example (and I’m coming from a very Conservative background) the “lifting up of holy hands” or “greeting one another with a holy kiss.” (I know that some denominations do practice these things, but many have abandoned them). Maybe we do, but maybe we don’t. This article is foolish. The Bible was taught more in small circles than in large crowds. What people often protect is their “order of service” – what happens, when it happens, and how it happens. Beyond that, no “church membership” is distinctly defined in Scripture. I’m sure a ton of folks will disagree. Love the sinner. Not necessarily.” I’m simply asking that these things (and others) be evaluated, as we should with anything we do…rather than simply incorporating them in our churches “because that’s what churches these days do.” That is my point entirely. “God tells us about hell to demonstrate to us the magnitude of his holiness. No shiny offering plates passed by ushers while pretty music is played. Nice article, we need to question ourselves and our traditions far more. I’m not fussed how we do it…Biblically I think it’s a heart matter: are we there to worship God or just sing. While the Bible is often quoted, it is just as often misquoted. This is very interesting! “Once again, it all comes back to “why.” Why do we do the things we do? Great things to consider today. Of course, no church is perfect. Baptism is not a requirement for salvation and many churches do not subscribe to infant baptism Instead, Baptism in the Baptist church is a public expression of faith. He says pretty much: “my speech was not extravagant. It’s another phantom scripture that appears nowhere in the Bible, but many people think it does. Buildings. It is unique. I think whatever helps us get closer and further along in our faith journey is a okay with me. Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. Yes! If it’s because the Bible says so, we’re always on good ground. In the New Testament, Jesus set the higher standard, though it was a less precise standard. Today, readers and carriers of the message often hear particular verses and passages in ways they were not intended to be heard. ( Log Out /  Here are six things Christians like to do that aren’t biblical. Their conclusions have been summarized in what we call Creeds and Confessions. There is only ONE Father and He is Sovereign. No programs, classes, or curriculum. Or pipe organs. We also get our picture of the early church from sources describing multiple city churches. LOL! Or 8am? The Bible rejects the idea of reincarnation; therefore, it does not support the idea of karma. Let all things be done for building up. It is the idea that how you live your life will determine the quality of life you will have after reincarnation. How easy it is to equate our experience or tradition with the Bible’s instruction! Interestingly enough, it addresses the concept of “religion” and its relation to “feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, protecting the weak and ill, and simply loving one another.” Hope it’s helpful to you. I am Christian but do not go to church. I just thought about this. I’ve wondered about that side of it, too! And it seems we don’t often consider the alternative. What an intriguing post, Lydia! And to keep considering. By the way, you may be interested in this article I wrote awhile back: https://journeyoftheword.com/2014/10/02/religion-vs-relationship/. Anyway, thanks as always for the feedback. 1 Cor 12:27. On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight. It saddens me to see people alone, unnoticed…where my kids don’t take all my attention, I move to pursue. However, if you live a life of selfishness and evil, you will be reincarnated into a less-than pleasant lifestyle. Sometimes, I believe, that if the true church (if I) walked more “in step with the Spirit,” we might see more of these practices coming out–in sincerity and truth, not merely from form or because they are what a particular denomination “does.” Maybe someday you could write a blog post about that, if the Lord leads you!! I liked your post and I’m all for following the Bible. What an unspeakable gift that we have the Holy Spirit as our Guide, and that He leads us into all truth–the truth of our precious Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ! When we get drunk, we are serving a master other than the Lord. But that’s me. The Lord bless you, Lydia; I’m glad that the Lord led me to this post! Peace. As believers grew in numbers – – a house church was not appropriate, and a place and building was needed. God says so Himself through Paul. Sometimes people don’t like that, or what do we do now. Giving money to help those in need is a beautiful thing to do, but it's only a first step in helping. Like I said I am not saying that those things are bad. Teaching, perhaps. But we do acknowledge that these are not things the Bible prescribes, suggests, or models. Yet the fellowship of believers is so important in many ways, one of which is the sharing right interpretations and knowledge that we don’t be led astray, and that we are not left alone walking these dark and dangerous paths while on this earth. Thank you for encouraging us to question things. By attending “church” in a building, I have met many wonderful people, and long time friends. Hate the sin. All three Abrahamic religions have more in com . While the teachings of Jesus only lasted around three years prior to His death, in that short amount of time a tremendous world of truth, myth, legend and superstition was built around Him. Also, we should derive our methods from the Bible, so to teach any method properly it’s necessary to teach the Bible, which women are prohibited from doing with men. If it’s because it’s the way we’ve always done it, that’s no good reason at all. Thanks for the great observation! Acts 2:47. Karma is based on the theological belief in reincarnation. Either He causes or allows everything in keeping with His divine plan (Acts 4:28; Ephesians 1:10). With the shift toward postmodernism, practices that were once discouraged by the Christian community have been embraced and even promoted. Great post, Lydia! As do so many traditions also have similar roots, though not all. Another word for superstition is “idolatry.” The Bible does not support the idea of things occurring by chance, but nothing is done outside of God’s sovereign control.

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