>1114298 I think we should BECAUSE her just woken up face makes her look like she's had a cry. cracky cracky cracky 2021 DAY 1 (2020 DAY 367) Philosophy and life strategy for 2021, STILL a work i - THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON CRACKY - chansluts anonymous imageboards for camgirls, camwhores, attention whores, and porn. Those are pretty good odds, actually. 2011: 9-7. AdGuard is a free extension that, as far as I can tell, is on-par with uBlock Origin. And gets the job done 98% of time. Shreik got banned for posting kiddie porn links. It doesn't effect their income so it doesn't matter. How can we tell whether some JS is "bad"? If everybody would learn to voice-control their smart phones and receive 3x speed audio feedback, battery life would shoot through the roof, since illuminating the screen is so costly, and you'd never need to do it. I do not define "the web" as certain popular browsers, CSS, Javascript, etc. Stuff that is reliable and always works. (Which will be a different HTML than the empty stub that "View Source" gives you.). I did not cut every ad, but I don't often browse new websites and I'm okay with some ads as long as they're not very bad. And for now it still works without javascript execution. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation. Affliction Warlock Artifact Weapon: Ulthalesh, the Deadwind Harvester, Hidden Artifact Weapon Appearances and Effects, https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/4300043, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXwAZPF3lE. It was also easier to install it on my parents' computers than to convince them to change browsers. The speed correlation with HTTP 0.9 and HTTP 1.0 is interesting. As far as I know, all major frontend frameworks can render to a static HTML document. RAWR!! or whatever web developer tell me it is. Skimming through the article didnât give a meaningful tl;dr - itâs complicated and there is no prevalent answer. Perhaps they should push back, but what leverage do the developers have? While it is probably more the case that newer protocols are serving newer content which is slower for myriad reasons, I find myself wondering if there are interesting correlations regarding what's being served by older protocols. That is, treating a webpage like an application instead of a document. Last night I had the misfortune of experiencing a comcast outage. You might want to proof-read your comments before posting them. This study is flawed for a few reasons that I'd mentioned to the author when it was first published, but they ignored my comments. Since you are dealing with Japanese kanji in localized games (your Monado and Street Fighter articles) I got another game series to add to the list: the .hack//G.U. Unlike Mickens, I cannot save the world, and I am not telling anyone else what to do or not to do, but I made the web fast for myself. I'm sceptical of this statement. The So I just added few URL filters to remove most obnoxious tracking and ads, I added very few CSS edits to the selected websites to remove popups and I added some JS to youtube to remove its ads. Right, but then you conclude that it is just incompetent engineering. I get what you're saying but I don't think the war is against one half versus another half. I guess through webpack? Duration between TTFB and when user events first get pumped? Even if Google didn't have a stake in targeted advertising, shared caches lead to easy identification - browsers have a duty to close off any avenue by which users can be tracked. Firefox. Used to talk to some chick in Hamilton, Ontario. Sadly, the user trackers have messed it up for application error trackers too. It misses the point. I don't think that's the whole story. Your site copies the format of Stripe and they were around in 2010, pre-dating you by 4 years. Tag managers are the scourge of performance. Web servers, the network and computers are plenty fast and still getting faster. Or you can just use pop3 or imap with a real client and avoid the web crap all together. It misses the point. How is this going to solve the chief bandwidth problem on the internet of watching funny cat videos and perusing dank memes? I find Firefox to be a great alternative for Safari. To top it off, we under cache, and aggressively cache bust, and ship unminified bundles with oodles of source maps because of "developer experience" I can't tell you how many times I see, to this day, a fortune 500 company bundling an entire unminified javascript framework. I never need Javascript for those tasks. All this results in bloated, unoptimized javascript bundles. Skipping few steps, it is trust problem. We're saying it's true! I run Wipr on Safari. THREE: reply to others. Tracking application code generally does not need a lot of code. It's a blog article yet has no date on it. Vercel did a write up on it here: https://vercel.com/blog/everything-about-react-server-compon... A large part of the web are static documents and they should be developed as such. This analysis just assumes all websites are JS-application monsters and only differentiates between them. Mild Shock. Many sites are perceivably slow because of rendering work they're doing after dominteractive. I don't use uBlock. But it is also interesting for app developers who have to use some kind of inplace dom modifications. There's the likes of Gatsby [0], which is generally well supported and pairs well with Netlify and a headless CMS such as contentful. > The reason I don't use uBlock is because I think that it's overkill for me to run thousands of filters for every website in the world. Flash was fun for a while with some nice animations and interactivity, then the JS themes took over, they were double edged swords - they enabled us to do things previously we would need separate installable desktop applications for (Email, Powerpoint, etc.) The irony that Google has initiatives like AMP to speed up page loading-- supposedly. It's faster but more complicated. games. I didn't say incompetent, but rather lazy and lower quality.". I got the Malisandre quest a few days ago, killed her and got a skull, killed her again for the world q today and got another skull. Needless to say, the speed went up. Or how much "lossiness" did you introduce to get the 32%? JQuery being more prevalent than Google Analytics is a surprise to me. I got a question for you, Mato. Bad software development slows the web down. But The sites I'm visiting on a daily basis are, in fact, applications and not documents. The sites we visit do. FOUR: no, seriously, they're kissing. https://ads-free.app/Ads-Free!%20Desktop/. *Record Scratch* *Freeze Frame* Y up, that's me. Even without ads third party JS was loading twice as many bytes as our React and first party code. blocklists based on the hosts file cover almost all ads. We're blocking everything regardless of context, and this doesn't allow websites to fix their application errors. I've found the issues get fixed pretty quickly too. edit: Seems that in the Cataclysm xpac, Feign Death will not be resisted, ever. There are so many of them. I was refuting the claim "javascript slows the web down" by qualifying it with "bad javascript slows the web down". pretty much like enterprise software. This often causes the browser to re-layout, re-render, and re-draw content. I was a big fan of the artwiz cure font and using XQuartz/X11 rootless alongside OS X's aqua, lol. I read this as Google is willing to spend millions upon millions to move huge amounts of additional unnecessary network traffic to make sure only they can reliably track most people across the whole of the web. The fact that you're already not in a psych ward for insanity is so baffling I have lost all faith in every kind of justice system. It requires a bunch of post-processing based on various events. Security is part of the reason but the bigger problem I find is tying uptime to somebody else whom I have no control over. It really shows why big tech own the keys to the internet. safari on iphone uses a system-wide ad-block list, so no need for browser plugins. Anyone can go on archive.org and verify that they changed their color scheme and header to ones very similar to CatchJS in Feb 2020, after CatchJS had used that look for 2 years. i turned a bad copypasta into a bad rap Lyrics: Okay, I know this is a really bad idea but / I'm already here so / Here we fuckin' go / Rawr / … In which case, the whole notion of "bad JS" is irrelevant; it's conceptually indistinguishable from "slow page", and hence adds nothing to the discussion (i.e. I was assuming that culling to the "top million" would skew things in favor of GA. Clearly it didn't, but I was surprised. Bundling 20 dependencies and 10k lines of "compiled" JSX into one giant 5MB uncachable blob that needs to get parsed in its entirety, then shoot some requests off then need to complete, be parsed, then compile some HTML and CSS that then need to again get parsed by the browser and then finally, the the browser's rendering engine gets to start laying things out and drawing the first pixels - that is the problem. It tastes closer to real bread without the carbs. > because you're defining slow web sites as being badly developed. I'll try and offer the more controversial point. At the end of the day, we're all humans, we will introduce bugs. This kills lots of rude click/function hijacking that is done by many obnoxious web pages. But I learned how to write chrome extensions and it turned out extremely easy to insert my own CSS and JS snippets to the selected pages. Again, I have no relationship with the developer. How about a standard how heavy the site (and other meta details) before it is loaded within the html spec? I had hoped at some point in the breakdown that they differentiated between Wordpress and.. everything else I guess. i see. I get what you're saying but I don't think the war is against one half versus another half. By checking if it's slow. Of course bad software development slows the web down, because you're defining slow web sites as being badly developed. (We've been around since 2014, so we pre-date them by 4 years). Personally, I donât (yet) see how an in-browser html parser could be much faster than createElement from e.g. I only load resources from one domain, I forgo graphics, and I do not use big, complex, graphical, "modern" web browsers to make HTTP requests. I always ask myself if something can be static now, and if so, I make it static. You should reconsider. Ahh winter. No idea; maybe getting a bunch of developers to make random refactorings, measuring the speed of each, using that to tell whether the JS is still "bad", and stopping once it's no longer slow and hence no longer "bad"? When you've got a fleet of machines behind load balancers you don't need things like a Host field to support vhosts since it's one site to a host. And the one that doesn't require JS in that list. It took minutes to load on my phone to find out if there was an outage. video. I do not even use wget or curl (only in examples on HN). Yes, JavaScript is necessary, but just like you shouldn't be using HTML for layout and CSS for content and graphics (although CSS-only art is impressive! Urban Dictionary got in on the act with an entry but it really exploded further with Richi Phelps’ Facebook Post. Yes some of this can be boiled down to companies not prioritizing performance, and product managers pushing for more features and tracking, but we've always had these constraints, and tight deadlines, and seemed to deliver just fine. Likewise, Wikipedia is also an extremely popular site. HOUSE! Probably not what you're after, but load the page in Chrome, open Among websites that I routinely visit, only Youtube could be counted as web application, but I'd argue that its main function could be simplified to a tag. Anonymous redditors published topics on r/screenwriting that flagged concern about the ethical operation of a group of screenwriting competitions & film festivals while alleging the contests were engaging in consumer fraud.. It does a good job of blocking ads and costs about $2. Thanks! With a "modern" SSL-enabled forward proxy or stunnel, they all work with today's websites. Itâs ad networks and tracking scripts. We donât trust each other, thus some money should be spent on being top trusted and top wanted at open markets/serps. Also has a neat broken site reporting system in it which automatically generates a GitHub issue to fix the filter lists from a simplified form. Download the client and get started. The sad reality is that many of these actual applications load faster than pages that could really just be pages but still load vast amounts of JS... Static website generators in contexts where they make sense (heaps of the web) are still criminally underused. [Verse 1] x3 nuzzles! Pin Tweet Shop the Meme. Well worth the 1% of extra revenue for a few minutes effort. uBlock or uBlock Origin? Generally we can't have nice things because that legacy cruft is going to be around until all of that legacy falls over and dies so hard that even laypeople consider it laughable to assume it still works. Given the big mobile browsers do not have adblockers (or even extensions altogether? And what percent of those are real humans? Absolutely. To do it yourself, you need a combination of PainTiming and measuring LongTasks or study the periodicity of setInterval/requestAnimationFrame. FIVE: whether there's backstory behind it, whether this has been building-building-BUILDING up or you've just met or you've been cursed by the universal, non-season specific hanging ⦠i wonder if the the fact that the most popular ad-tech company also producing the most popular mobile os has something to do with it. I lurked Kiwi Farms for a few years before I joined. That's the most common stuff but it doesn't seem to be the slowest. For me, using the web primarily comprises searching, reading and downloading. There are macOS and iOS versions, they update their lists, and because of the architecture have no access to your browsing so can never be tempted to start farming you. Also the accursed videos every site wants to cram down your throat. jQuery is a defacto standard that needs to be made native in browsers and then when called for not loaded as script but already existing as native code and management models. Comcast serves their outage data through their account management portal which happens to be a massive, bloated, slow javascript app. What way would you suggest measuring this? dominteractive isn't a good metric for this. Hence I am very skeptical of claims that "the web is slow". With jQuery (as an example) when you change elements it does so on the live DOM. It doesn't necessarily cause it. Notice that single page application frameworks show up exactly zero times on the list of worst offenders. Think her name was Claire, was infatuated with her then she called me one day to make fun of me in front of her friends that i bought her pizza a couple of times online. People want to attract and fill the page with more stuff than "necessary". I've developed my own blocker for Safari, mostly because I was tired of other blockers breaking too many sites for me. We're already tracking all the errors in the backend, and we should also be able to do the same with frontend. Snow; festivities; hectic family get togethers: it truly is the most wonderful time of the year, and while global pandemics (and 2020 in general) may be giving the venerable Chevy Chase a run for his money when it comes to overall holiday insanity this year, rest assured that anime is here to ⦠You could automate it with Selenium (headless Chrome). 27.3k Likes, 476 Comments - Younghoe Koo (@kooyounghoe) on Instagram: “You’re probably wondering how I got here... #riseup” So, it is designed to be less aggressive in filtering. I don't use any externally hosted scripts on sites I develop. The problem is people no longer care about performance, nor do you have the engineering talent to write performant web applications. *Record Scratch* *Freeze Frame* - You’re probably wondering how I got here Like us on Facebook! Few years ago a news website was 95% side content, the article in question was basically a tweet long sentence. 'firefox focus' has built-in ad-blocking but does not get the yt-ads afaik. If youâre sending a cold email, youâve got to tread very lightly because theyâve requested nothing from you How to Write a Follow Up Email Now that you know how important it is to follow up, and how long (give or take) you should wait before sending each email, letâs go through how to write the follow-up email itself. So, what are you waiting for? Welcome to Capitalism! Web is pretty fast and usable for me. December 2019. Integrate Amazon shopping ads into your content. DNS blocking is just so much more efficient. I'd be willing to bet (a very small sum) that the HTTP 0.9 and 1.0 servers encountered are app servers/frameworks. The less interaction the better. And it would encourage all websites to be accessible, content-only, no-image sites, and they'd be no-javascript as well. Thereâs still window of opportunities for ⦠That would be vastly different from the majority of FB users. Note that the mob can be killed more than once, only if you have the world q again. If you create a thousand elements in a loop that's tons of extra work for the browser and blocks interactivity. It's been great so far. Although I live in the city, my neighborhood has horrible cellular coverage. I use it routinely with w3m. We curate our own unique blocking rules for Better based on the principles of Ethical Design.". The problem is JS itself or rather the fact that it's used where it really shouldn't be. Gmail also has a perfectly working non-javscript interface. Good software development can slow the web down. I use automation where I can because IMO that is what computers were made for. 1986: 14-2. It's challenging to convince a PM that people who block stats don't show up in their stats, but do still have money to spend. I don't have hard numbers but Electron-based applications seem to reliably be far more bloated than applications using ordinary GUI frameworks. I hope that one day this gets branded as a war crime and you get hauled off to prison, never to see the light of day again. And they want to do that without involving pesky engineers. I use AdGuard, a content blocker that supports the major ABP lists like EasyList, Fanboyâs, etc. You can see a screengrab of the post from Twitter below- basically, the Richi Phelps account used the infamous copypasta, translated into Mexican gangster slang, and it went even more viral on Facebook, where people had never … In most cases, I eliminate it. Targeting old software usually also means targeting old hardware, so those sites tend to perform reasonably well (and in general, old browsers didn't give developers many options to slow things down). In my view the real war is from the top against all below. What is Amazon Publisher Services, is it a tracking script or something? Is it the case the content on the older protocols is living in an intersection of mission critical to somebody (so it has never gone away due to simple lack of maintenance) and either sufficiently functional as is that nobody has seen a need to upgrade its infrastructure, or too deeply tied into a consumer that assumed quirks of a protocol for upgrading to be tractable? This is not a metric that has a corresponding browser event. The above works for synthetic as well as real users. Some 3rd party plugins simply don't work with async/defer or still use DOM write(). Op is pointing out the argument is tautological and doesnât add anything insightful to the discussion. The reason I don't use uBlock is because I think that it's overkill for me to run thousands of filters for every website in the world. Edit: I will give you that their web page header and pricing looks very similar. TWO: you're kissing. Notice how each time the Giants makes it to the Superb Owl, their win record seem to go down? And bloat. Is something like already proposed anywhere, or not really a solution to the problem â thoughts? If you're interested, here's what my final dwm config ended up looking like many years ago! > Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. They're simpler to implement than HTTP 1.1 and don't set expectations on the client they can't meet. For example, I gather all the DNS data for all sites posted to HN before I start reading. I didn't understand it, but w/e hope you're doing fine and you got out of your rut. '''==Welcome To Q Research General==''' '''We are researchers who deal in open-source information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. that for many sites, the pressure to add extra stats, tracking, advertising, monitoring, etc etc, comes from 'above' and it's not the developers' choice to add these mountains of javascript libraries to their sites. Hihn got banned for his relentless copypasta, and even then, they let him back on, even though he used multiple sockpuppets as well. How can we improve it, to get non-bad JS? ''"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are ⦠With their new "no third party cookie" BS we might see it break but until then I don't think they can be so user hostile, Remember the wall of text and flame wars posted on slashdot whenever hosts is mentioned.
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Automatically prioritises sites via an algorithm, probably their Alexa ranking or something similar. Please keep the following in mind when posting a comment: Your comment must be in English or it will be removed. It would be interesting to get a drill down on what is being served on those protocols. It's in the domain name: catchjs. I think catching application errors is a necessity to ensure your application runs smoothly and doesn't mess with customer/user experience. Off topic: I havenât visited one million websites (yet), but I can already tell you that your sticky header is annoying. It's not just the ads. Re: "You're probably wondering how I got here" « Reply #25 on: April 05, 2020, 11:40:31 PM » So basically all any of us can think of are either parodies or … Simply browse for your screenshot using the form below. Use this for network wide blocking of all sorts of virtual garbage. I also have no idea what % of these sites have reached that level. To expand on adguard, you can self host their dns blocker via docker. But kidding aside, for what I've found on adblocks for Safari you need to pay and I believe those are quite inferior in blockage to uBlock. It also stops a lot of tracking code. Wait a company logo about javascript that uses {}? Urban Dictionary & Richi Phelps. Every site is a JS-application monster because of the 3rd party add-ons people feel they need to have. All tautological statements are true. So far, I have not gotten any skull drops from the Argus rares, either on their world quests or not, so I'm assuming they only drop off Broken Isles rares. The engineering might be perfectly fine if you take into account the deadlines, budgets and requirements from the clients/managers. The browser is a document viewer, not an application runtime, so you should be giving it documents, not programs. hyperscript driven by pojo. ), you shouldn't be using JavaScript for content and styling. For desktop & mobile: use something like nextdns/adguard or pihole & consider installing it on your home networks router. Can anyone confirm any faster way to get the right WQ to spawn? If you're interested in the details shoot me an email to przemek [at] optidash [dot] ai. 8. It is developed by Bandai Namco and Sora Ltd. and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo Switch.Initially teased in March 2018 at the end of a Nintendo Direct, the game ⦠~~ On the US domestic scene, I happened to notice today that the Administration signed off on extending foreclosure forbearance until midsummer, but didn't extend the ⦠For example, Facebook is probably high up the list. I feel like there are a lot of pages that don't really need client-side html rendering, but they have it because react is a good solution for modular web content. Whatever the causes may be, the end result is poor engineering. *Record Scratch* *freeze frame* "You're probably wondering how I got here. hosted directly on the website, which is pretty rare nowadays. My guess would've been 1) ads / tracking and 2) bloated JS frameworks. Once you're 3 deep in that it doesn't matter how 'fast' your webserver is or how fast and clean your JS code is, the serial loading will slow things to a crawl. I dabbled in React for a while, but then I realized how flawed the concept is (it's like downloading a full .dll every time you run a program). I wish there was a content blocker that support automatic translation of ABP lists into content blocker rulesâIâve been working on one but havenât found the time to finish it. IMHO, those are two different things. The latest jQuery is 85 KB (~30 KB gzipped), and doesn't do anything time consuming on load. ; Coconut flour ; Psyllium husk â I am using whole psyllium husk, itâs what adds a chewy/bready texture to low carb bread. I agree with all you are saying, but I wonder how much this actually comes down to software developers. :-(. All those Wordpress instances does drive a lot of the stats. All of this for something that should be no more complicated than entering a zip code and getting back a small page with information about whether or not there is an outage. This really has nothing (or very little) to do with user experience. Happy to help. I knew I would get alternative browser recommendations because of my phrasing... but I was also looking forward to them! Ayo Hol Up (also known as “Smacks Lips Profusely”) referes to a copypasta featuring several racial stereotypes about African American people. That is, treating a webpage like an application instead of a document. argumentum ad logicam. I generate the HTTP myself using software I wrote in C for that purpose and send using TCP clients others have written over the years. thx for explaining and sry for the noise. Gov.uk and amazon.com for example went out of their way to work for all people of the world. With React and the like they operate on a copy of the DOM and automatically batch updates to it. Customer service portals are rarely given priority when resources are allocated, but it's pretty astonishing just how slow such a critical service portal loads over mobile tethering, given that is going to be a primary usecase. It's quite cheap, and since I don't use Safari as my main browser, the fact that there's nothing to configure is a bonus. Even with bloat you can trim 2-3 seconds off load times by removing trackers. This is my choice, except that periodically I have to go back to the web interface because searching over IMAP barely works at all. Michelle Catlin @CatlinNya The former is concerned with web servers. Between the two of these, browsing becomes much less user hostile. You both have an incredibly generic logo/header/copy template so I'm not really sure what you're trying to imply. Just the purpose, just the top level files. Simply type the URL of the video in the form below. Touché -- I am attempting to make a distinction between the general statement of "javascript slows the web down" to a certain type of Javascript slows the web down, namely lazy and careless Javascript slows the web down. It's got to be like those old blenders or fans... wait they still work; we're cursed forever. Blind people use smartphones this way, so it's not as though the device can't support it. The issue comes with tracking users. But the reality is that JS-application sites fail 1% of users and for actually serving everyone that 1% matters. Marketing folk just want to stuff them full with dozens of analytics services and third party integrations. âLazy software development is why websites are slow because slow websites are caused by lazy development.â. I will earn more than 15,000 EUR for easy work online at home in my free time. The title of this blog post refers to "the web" but it mainly discusses "rendering". Basically their version of AdSense. ONE: comment with your character and preferences. I suspect that 1 in 96 figure is mostly people who have uMatrix or NoScript installed, not people who have disabled JavaScript entirely. >>1114298 I think we should BECAUSE her just woken up face makes her look like she's had a cry. cracky cracky cracky 2021 DAY 1 (2020 DAY 367) Philosophy and life strategy for 2021, STILL a work i - THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON CRACKY - chansluts anonymous imageboards for camgirls, camwhores, attention whores, and porn. Those are pretty good odds, actually. 2011: 9-7. AdGuard is a free extension that, as far as I can tell, is on-par with uBlock Origin. And gets the job done 98% of time. Shreik got banned for posting kiddie porn links. It doesn't effect their income so it doesn't matter. How can we tell whether some JS is "bad"? If everybody would learn to voice-control their smart phones and receive 3x speed audio feedback, battery life would shoot through the roof, since illuminating the screen is so costly, and you'd never need to do it. I do not define "the web" as certain popular browsers, CSS, Javascript, etc. Stuff that is reliable and always works. (Which will be a different HTML than the empty stub that "View Source" gives you.). I did not cut every ad, but I don't often browse new websites and I'm okay with some ads as long as they're not very bad. And for now it still works without javascript execution. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation. Affliction Warlock Artifact Weapon: Ulthalesh, the Deadwind Harvester, Hidden Artifact Weapon Appearances and Effects, https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/4300043, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXwAZPF3lE. It was also easier to install it on my parents' computers than to convince them to change browsers. The speed correlation with HTTP 0.9 and HTTP 1.0 is interesting. As far as I know, all major frontend frameworks can render to a static HTML document. RAWR!! or whatever web developer tell me it is. Skimming through the article didnât give a meaningful tl;dr - itâs complicated and there is no prevalent answer. Perhaps they should push back, but what leverage do the developers have? While it is probably more the case that newer protocols are serving newer content which is slower for myriad reasons, I find myself wondering if there are interesting correlations regarding what's being served by older protocols. That is, treating a webpage like an application instead of a document. Last night I had the misfortune of experiencing a comcast outage. You might want to proof-read your comments before posting them. This study is flawed for a few reasons that I'd mentioned to the author when it was first published, but they ignored my comments. Since you are dealing with Japanese kanji in localized games (your Monado and Street Fighter articles) I got another game series to add to the list: the .hack//G.U. Unlike Mickens, I cannot save the world, and I am not telling anyone else what to do or not to do, but I made the web fast for myself. I'm sceptical of this statement. The So I just added few URL filters to remove most obnoxious tracking and ads, I added very few CSS edits to the selected websites to remove popups and I added some JS to youtube to remove its ads. Right, but then you conclude that it is just incompetent engineering. I get what you're saying but I don't think the war is against one half versus another half. I guess through webpack? Duration between TTFB and when user events first get pumped? Even if Google didn't have a stake in targeted advertising, shared caches lead to easy identification - browsers have a duty to close off any avenue by which users can be tracked. Firefox. Used to talk to some chick in Hamilton, Ontario. Sadly, the user trackers have messed it up for application error trackers too. It misses the point. I don't think that's the whole story. Your site copies the format of Stripe and they were around in 2010, pre-dating you by 4 years. Tag managers are the scourge of performance. Web servers, the network and computers are plenty fast and still getting faster. Or you can just use pop3 or imap with a real client and avoid the web crap all together. It misses the point. How is this going to solve the chief bandwidth problem on the internet of watching funny cat videos and perusing dank memes? I find Firefox to be a great alternative for Safari. To top it off, we under cache, and aggressively cache bust, and ship unminified bundles with oodles of source maps because of "developer experience" I can't tell you how many times I see, to this day, a fortune 500 company bundling an entire unminified javascript framework. I never need Javascript for those tasks. All this results in bloated, unoptimized javascript bundles. Skipping few steps, it is trust problem. We're saying it's true! I run Wipr on Safari. THREE: reply to others. Tracking application code generally does not need a lot of code. It's a blog article yet has no date on it. Vercel did a write up on it here: https://vercel.com/blog/everything-about-react-server-compon... A large part of the web are static documents and they should be developed as such. This analysis just assumes all websites are JS-application monsters and only differentiates between them. Mild Shock. Many sites are perceivably slow because of rendering work they're doing after dominteractive. I don't use uBlock. But it is also interesting for app developers who have to use some kind of inplace dom modifications. There's the likes of Gatsby [0], which is generally well supported and pairs well with Netlify and a headless CMS such as contentful. > The reason I don't use uBlock is because I think that it's overkill for me to run thousands of filters for every website in the world. Flash was fun for a while with some nice animations and interactivity, then the JS themes took over, they were double edged swords - they enabled us to do things previously we would need separate installable desktop applications for (Email, Powerpoint, etc.) The irony that Google has initiatives like AMP to speed up page loading-- supposedly. It's faster but more complicated. games. I didn't say incompetent, but rather lazy and lower quality.". I got the Malisandre quest a few days ago, killed her and got a skull, killed her again for the world q today and got another skull. Needless to say, the speed went up. Or how much "lossiness" did you introduce to get the 32%? JQuery being more prevalent than Google Analytics is a surprise to me. I got a question for you, Mato. Bad software development slows the web down. But The sites I'm visiting on a daily basis are, in fact, applications and not documents. The sites we visit do. FOUR: no, seriously, they're kissing. https://ads-free.app/Ads-Free!%20Desktop/. *Record Scratch* *Freeze Frame* Y up, that's me. Even without ads third party JS was loading twice as many bytes as our React and first party code. blocklists based on the hosts file cover almost all ads. We're blocking everything regardless of context, and this doesn't allow websites to fix their application errors. I've found the issues get fixed pretty quickly too. edit: Seems that in the Cataclysm xpac, Feign Death will not be resisted, ever. There are so many of them. I was refuting the claim "javascript slows the web down" by qualifying it with "bad javascript slows the web down". pretty much like enterprise software. This often causes the browser to re-layout, re-render, and re-draw content. I was a big fan of the artwiz cure font and using XQuartz/X11 rootless alongside OS X's aqua, lol. I read this as Google is willing to spend millions upon millions to move huge amounts of additional unnecessary network traffic to make sure only they can reliably track most people across the whole of the web. The fact that you're already not in a psych ward for insanity is so baffling I have lost all faith in every kind of justice system. It requires a bunch of post-processing based on various events. Security is part of the reason but the bigger problem I find is tying uptime to somebody else whom I have no control over. It really shows why big tech own the keys to the internet. safari on iphone uses a system-wide ad-block list, so no need for browser plugins. Anyone can go on archive.org and verify that they changed their color scheme and header to ones very similar to CatchJS in Feb 2020, after CatchJS had used that look for 2 years. i turned a bad copypasta into a bad rap Lyrics: Okay, I know this is a really bad idea but / I'm already here so / Here we fuckin' go / Rawr / … In which case, the whole notion of "bad JS" is irrelevant; it's conceptually indistinguishable from "slow page", and hence adds nothing to the discussion (i.e. I was assuming that culling to the "top million" would skew things in favor of GA. Clearly it didn't, but I was surprised. Bundling 20 dependencies and 10k lines of "compiled" JSX into one giant 5MB uncachable blob that needs to get parsed in its entirety, then shoot some requests off then need to complete, be parsed, then compile some HTML and CSS that then need to again get parsed by the browser and then finally, the the browser's rendering engine gets to start laying things out and drawing the first pixels - that is the problem. It tastes closer to real bread without the carbs. > because you're defining slow web sites as being badly developed. I'll try and offer the more controversial point. At the end of the day, we're all humans, we will introduce bugs. This kills lots of rude click/function hijacking that is done by many obnoxious web pages. But I learned how to write chrome extensions and it turned out extremely easy to insert my own CSS and JS snippets to the selected pages. Again, I have no relationship with the developer. How about a standard how heavy the site (and other meta details) before it is loaded within the html spec? I had hoped at some point in the breakdown that they differentiated between Wordpress and.. everything else I guess. i see. I get what you're saying but I don't think the war is against one half versus another half. By checking if it's slow. Of course bad software development slows the web down, because you're defining slow web sites as being badly developed. (We've been around since 2014, so we pre-date them by 4 years). Personally, I donât (yet) see how an in-browser html parser could be much faster than createElement from e.g. I only load resources from one domain, I forgo graphics, and I do not use big, complex, graphical, "modern" web browsers to make HTTP requests. I always ask myself if something can be static now, and if so, I make it static. You should reconsider. Ahh winter. No idea; maybe getting a bunch of developers to make random refactorings, measuring the speed of each, using that to tell whether the JS is still "bad", and stopping once it's no longer slow and hence no longer "bad"? When you've got a fleet of machines behind load balancers you don't need things like a Host field to support vhosts since it's one site to a host. And the one that doesn't require JS in that list. It took minutes to load on my phone to find out if there was an outage. video. I do not even use wget or curl (only in examples on HN). Yes, JavaScript is necessary, but just like you shouldn't be using HTML for layout and CSS for content and graphics (although CSS-only art is impressive! Urban Dictionary got in on the act with an entry but it really exploded further with Richi Phelps’ Facebook Post. Yes some of this can be boiled down to companies not prioritizing performance, and product managers pushing for more features and tracking, but we've always had these constraints, and tight deadlines, and seemed to deliver just fine. Likewise, Wikipedia is also an extremely popular site. HOUSE! Probably not what you're after, but load the page in Chrome, open Among websites that I routinely visit, only Youtube could be counted as web application, but I'd argue that its main function could be simplified to a tag. Anonymous redditors published topics on r/screenwriting that flagged concern about the ethical operation of a group of screenwriting competitions & film festivals while alleging the contests were engaging in consumer fraud.. It does a good job of blocking ads and costs about $2. Thanks! With a "modern" SSL-enabled forward proxy or stunnel, they all work with today's websites. Itâs ad networks and tracking scripts. We donât trust each other, thus some money should be spent on being top trusted and top wanted at open markets/serps. Also has a neat broken site reporting system in it which automatically generates a GitHub issue to fix the filter lists from a simplified form. Download the client and get started. The sad reality is that many of these actual applications load faster than pages that could really just be pages but still load vast amounts of JS... Static website generators in contexts where they make sense (heaps of the web) are still criminally underused. [Verse 1] x3 nuzzles! Pin Tweet Shop the Meme. Well worth the 1% of extra revenue for a few minutes effort. uBlock or uBlock Origin? Generally we can't have nice things because that legacy cruft is going to be around until all of that legacy falls over and dies so hard that even laypeople consider it laughable to assume it still works. Given the big mobile browsers do not have adblockers (or even extensions altogether? And what percent of those are real humans? Absolutely. To do it yourself, you need a combination of PainTiming and measuring LongTasks or study the periodicity of setInterval/requestAnimationFrame. FIVE: whether there's backstory behind it, whether this has been building-building-BUILDING up or you've just met or you've been cursed by the universal, non-season specific hanging ⦠i wonder if the the fact that the most popular ad-tech company also producing the most popular mobile os has something to do with it. I lurked Kiwi Farms for a few years before I joined. That's the most common stuff but it doesn't seem to be the slowest. For me, using the web primarily comprises searching, reading and downloading. There are macOS and iOS versions, they update their lists, and because of the architecture have no access to your browsing so can never be tempted to start farming you. Also the accursed videos every site wants to cram down your throat. jQuery is a defacto standard that needs to be made native in browsers and then when called for not loaded as script but already existing as native code and management models. Comcast serves their outage data through their account management portal which happens to be a massive, bloated, slow javascript app. What way would you suggest measuring this? dominteractive isn't a good metric for this. Hence I am very skeptical of claims that "the web is slow". With jQuery (as an example) when you change elements it does so on the live DOM. It doesn't necessarily cause it. Notice that single page application frameworks show up exactly zero times on the list of worst offenders. Think her name was Claire, was infatuated with her then she called me one day to make fun of me in front of her friends that i bought her pizza a couple of times online. People want to attract and fill the page with more stuff than "necessary". I've developed my own blocker for Safari, mostly because I was tired of other blockers breaking too many sites for me. We're already tracking all the errors in the backend, and we should also be able to do the same with frontend. Snow; festivities; hectic family get togethers: it truly is the most wonderful time of the year, and while global pandemics (and 2020 in general) may be giving the venerable Chevy Chase a run for his money when it comes to overall holiday insanity this year, rest assured that anime is here to ⦠You could automate it with Selenium (headless Chrome). 27.3k Likes, 476 Comments - Younghoe Koo (@kooyounghoe) on Instagram: “You’re probably wondering how I got here... #riseup” So, it is designed to be less aggressive in filtering. I don't use any externally hosted scripts on sites I develop. The problem is people no longer care about performance, nor do you have the engineering talent to write performant web applications. *Record Scratch* *Freeze Frame* - You’re probably wondering how I got here Like us on Facebook! Few years ago a news website was 95% side content, the article in question was basically a tweet long sentence. 'firefox focus' has built-in ad-blocking but does not get the yt-ads afaik. If youâre sending a cold email, youâve got to tread very lightly because theyâve requested nothing from you How to Write a Follow Up Email Now that you know how important it is to follow up, and how long (give or take) you should wait before sending each email, letâs go through how to write the follow-up email itself. So, what are you waiting for? Welcome to Capitalism! Web is pretty fast and usable for me. December 2019. Integrate Amazon shopping ads into your content. DNS blocking is just so much more efficient. I'd be willing to bet (a very small sum) that the HTTP 0.9 and 1.0 servers encountered are app servers/frameworks. The less interaction the better. And it would encourage all websites to be accessible, content-only, no-image sites, and they'd be no-javascript as well. Thereâs still window of opportunities for ⦠That would be vastly different from the majority of FB users. Note that the mob can be killed more than once, only if you have the world q again. If you create a thousand elements in a loop that's tons of extra work for the browser and blocks interactivity. It's been great so far. Although I live in the city, my neighborhood has horrible cellular coverage. I use it routinely with w3m. We curate our own unique blocking rules for Better based on the principles of Ethical Design.". The problem is JS itself or rather the fact that it's used where it really shouldn't be. Gmail also has a perfectly working non-javscript interface. Good software development can slow the web down. I use automation where I can because IMO that is what computers were made for. 1986: 14-2. It's challenging to convince a PM that people who block stats don't show up in their stats, but do still have money to spend. I don't have hard numbers but Electron-based applications seem to reliably be far more bloated than applications using ordinary GUI frameworks. I hope that one day this gets branded as a war crime and you get hauled off to prison, never to see the light of day again. And they want to do that without involving pesky engineers. I use AdGuard, a content blocker that supports the major ABP lists like EasyList, Fanboyâs, etc. You can see a screengrab of the post from Twitter below- basically, the Richi Phelps account used the infamous copypasta, translated into Mexican gangster slang, and it went even more viral on Facebook, where people had never … In most cases, I eliminate it. Targeting old software usually also means targeting old hardware, so those sites tend to perform reasonably well (and in general, old browsers didn't give developers many options to slow things down). In my view the real war is from the top against all below. What is Amazon Publisher Services, is it a tracking script or something? Is it the case the content on the older protocols is living in an intersection of mission critical to somebody (so it has never gone away due to simple lack of maintenance) and either sufficiently functional as is that nobody has seen a need to upgrade its infrastructure, or too deeply tied into a consumer that assumed quirks of a protocol for upgrading to be tractable? This is not a metric that has a corresponding browser event. The above works for synthetic as well as real users. Some 3rd party plugins simply don't work with async/defer or still use DOM write(). Op is pointing out the argument is tautological and doesnât add anything insightful to the discussion. The reason I don't use uBlock is because I think that it's overkill for me to run thousands of filters for every website in the world. Edit: I will give you that their web page header and pricing looks very similar. TWO: you're kissing. Notice how each time the Giants makes it to the Superb Owl, their win record seem to go down? And bloat. Is something like already proposed anywhere, or not really a solution to the problem â thoughts? If you're interested, here's what my final dwm config ended up looking like many years ago! > Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. They're simpler to implement than HTTP 1.1 and don't set expectations on the client they can't meet. For example, I gather all the DNS data for all sites posted to HN before I start reading. I didn't understand it, but w/e hope you're doing fine and you got out of your rut. '''==Welcome To Q Research General==''' '''We are researchers who deal in open-source information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. that for many sites, the pressure to add extra stats, tracking, advertising, monitoring, etc etc, comes from 'above' and it's not the developers' choice to add these mountains of javascript libraries to their sites. Hihn got banned for his relentless copypasta, and even then, they let him back on, even though he used multiple sockpuppets as well. How can we improve it, to get non-bad JS? ''"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are ⦠With their new "no third party cookie" BS we might see it break but until then I don't think they can be so user hostile, Remember the wall of text and flame wars posted on slashdot whenever hosts is mentioned.
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